It really is perilously close to a conversion narrative if you suggest that lesbians ought to be open to the idea of having sex with people with penises. Sexual attraction is (almost always) embodied. It's not directed at another person's perception of their own identity.https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1137624393251733504 …
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Replying to @fardarter
Why not? If you tell people they ought to be attracted to bodies of a particular sex. That's the beginning of a conversion narrative.
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Replying to @PhilosophyExp
Because that's not what's being said. I have heard people say that, and that's bad and wrong, but a whole point of the movement is that "woman" doesn't map to the traditional biology. So reading it as "lesbians are people who are attracted to women, and therefore not being /1
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Replying to @fardarter @PhilosophyExp
which is what the article is doing when it identifies the penis as a relevant matter. Now, there are people who will say that focusing on the genitals in sexual attraction is objectification, but I don't see that surfaced here and those people can fuck off.
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Replying to @fardarter
Yes, I understand how the argument by redefinition is going to work. But even if I accept it, which I don't, it doesn't matter. Once you grant that gay men, for example, ought to be open to vaginas in their sex life, you've made the first move in a conversion narrative. 1/
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The fact that you might turn around & say, Ah yes, but it's not a conversion argument, coz we're talking abt trans men's vaginas, we're not saying gay men should become straight men, doesn't alter the fact you've made the first move (i.e, that we can change genitalia preference).
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