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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted Erik Angner

      Every time Dawkins dumps on religion, my feed is full of people patiently explaining to him how he gets it wrong. And yet he keeps doing it. Is it too much to ask that a proponent of science and rationality should rationally update his beliefs in light of new evidence? Ah...https://twitter.com/ErikAngner/status/1103604440970469376 …

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      Erik Angner @ErikAngner
      Every time Dawkins dumps on philosophy, my feed is full of people patiently explaining to him how he gets it wrong. And yet he keeps doing it. Is it too much to ask that a proponent of science and rationality should rationally update his beliefs in light of new evidence? https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1103342127721992193 …
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    2. Struan‏ @StruanCurtis Mar 7
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      How is philosophy equivalent to religion though?

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      It isn't, but the relevant point is its difference, and it's utility, not the fact that lots of people are patiently explaining why he's wrong. Argumentum ad populum.

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    4. Struan‏ @StruanCurtis Mar 7
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      I don't think Erik was making an argumentum ad populum, I think he was implying that enough people have corrected Dawkins that it's reasonable to believe Dawkins should have noticed at least some of those corrections by now.

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Begs the question. A religious person could say exactly the same. It amounts to the claim that if enough philosophers explain why philosophy is useful, philosophy must be useful. Well, no.

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    6. Struan‏ @StruanCurtis Mar 7
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      Isn't it more like, enough people have messaged Dawkins that the message should have reached him by now. Not that the message is correct BECAUSE many people said it.

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Begs the question again. It's entirely possible Dawkins doesn't think the message is correct. Switch it around. A religious person could make exactly the same point, and you wouldn't think numbers were relevant, nor that it were a matter of you ignoring the message.

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    8. Struan‏ @StruanCurtis Mar 7
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      Yes, it's possible Dawkins has read the responses and found them unconvincing. Whether the message is correct is a different question. It could be that the rebuttals to Dawkins were in fact strong.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Well, exactly, in which case it's entirely unreasonable to suggest that Dawkins is ignoring evidence in not being convinced by the arguments. I could certainly make a convincing argument for the disutility of philosophy.

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        1. Struan‏ @StruanCurtis Mar 7
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          I don't think it's entirely unreasonable. Maybe somewhat unreasonable. It depends on the quality of the arguments doesn't it? It's likely Dawkins has read the arguments, though.

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