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    1. Dr Emma Hilton‏ @FondOfBeetles Mar 7
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      Replying to @lo_stats @fairplaywomen @ioc

      Yep, 8 sub-elite mid/distance runners. This is what people mean when they say ‘The IOC looked at ALL THE DATA, listen to them’.

      4 replies 9 retweets 49 likes
    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Replying to @FondOfBeetles @lo_stats and

      Is that supposed to be a serious study!? If so, it's utterly bonkers. Eg, we don't know anything about respective training loads before the 2 races. Or anything about a myriad of other potentially confounding variables.

      2 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
    3. Dr Emma Hilton‏ @FondOfBeetles Mar 7
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @lo_stats and

      2 minute read. https://www.sportsci.org/2016/WCPASabstracts/ID-1699.pdf# …

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. FairPlayForWomen‏ @fairplaywomen Mar 7
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      Replying to @FondOfBeetles @PhilosophyExp and

      I don't think I've ever seen such high p values quoted in a published study! p=1 means data is no more than random chance. p<0.05 is valid result. The Harper study is recording p values of 0.84 and 0.68!! https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1e6a/bd2c1e03ba88e9ac8da94ea1d69ff3f4878a.pdf?_ga=2.254440527.659551599.1550520323-1192624875.1550520323 …pic.twitter.com/Twp4KfJA72

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Yes, but they're trying to make the point there isn't a significant difference. That's a win for them.

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    6. B-lo_stats‏ @lo_stats Mar 7
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      If a reasonable scientist was there, they should of asked what was the design's ability to detect meaningful differences. The answer would of not been convincing.

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Yes, of course. But in terms of their crappy design, null hypothesis is no difference between age-graded scores pre & post-transition (because post score is age-graded score for women). High p-values means you fail to reject null hypothesis. That's why they're being quoted.

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    8. B-lo_stats‏ @lo_stats Mar 7
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @fairplaywomen and

      The scientifically responsible strategy for them would of been to 1) perform an equivalence test (but the n requirement would be too large), or 2) show that if there was a true important difference they would likely have significant p-values. They went with neither strategy.

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    9. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Replying to @lo_stats @fairplaywomen and

      Pre-test, post-test design in real world conditions, given a gap of a year, is always going to be nightmarisly difficult to control. I'm not sure if could be done.

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    10. B-lo_stats‏ @lo_stats Mar 7
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      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @fairplaywomen and

      Not correctly with that sample size and that design. Personally I would of considered a cohort design with a biological women control group matched by age and maybe some other factors.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Mar 7
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      Problem though is the athletic performance of sub-elite athletes varies significantly year by year. Real life gets in the way. It'd have to be a bloody big cohort to control for all the noise. My age-graded score would vary by 20 points depending on how many donuts I'd snarfed!

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