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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 10
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      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted Ronald Klain

      Hang on a minute... the statement says "I anticipate" - that's not an unreasonable claim. It's a probabilistic statement based on the currently available indicators. It's the kind of thing physicians routinely say to patients.https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/1094259688366112768 …

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      Ronald KlainVerified account @RonaldKlain
      No doctor can predict someone’s future health. This is a disgrace to an office with a great tradition of professionalism. Just another institution turned into a joke by a President determined to make anyone willing to submit an instrument of his lies https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1094005076300099585 …
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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 10
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      And also it's bollox to claim that doctor's don't make predictions about future health. If you think otherwise, you're going to be very puzzled when you hear that somebody is "out of danger" following an accident, for example.

      4:29 AM - 10 Feb 2019
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        2. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 10
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          Literally and out of context, you are right. In context, though: 1) Has any doctor made such a statement regarding a past US President? 2) This is a statement about a 72-year-old man’s health over the next 6+ years. Would you still maintain that such anticipation is reasonable?

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        3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 10
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          Yes of course, if one understands the term "anticipate" is probabilistic. The hyperbole of the reaction to it all is ridiculous. And as to your first point...https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-secret-history-of-americas-ailing-presidents-and-and-the-doctors-who-covered-up-for-them/2018/01/24/3fa372d6-0062-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html …

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        4. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 10
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          Yes, in the now fairly distant past (when America was great?), doctors used to cover up presidents’ *current* illnesses. But even then, they did not make public predictions of presidents’ health for 6+ years into the future. And no prez in those times was this old.

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        5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 10
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          Well, you know, I'd say on balance covering up is a little worse than making a prediction (which I'd think people would be able to understand is a probabilistic statement). You're reaching here, President Vizzini. My prediction is you're going to strain something! :)

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        6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 10
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          Even granting your moved goalposts about which is worse, all those examples are from before I was born. In the 1970s, US Government instituted new transparency standards in many areas, so your argument amounts to ignoring the norms of the last 45 years.

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        7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 10
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          You're making a fuss about nothing, President. Your reaction is absurdly overblown. That's my point.

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