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    1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      Where do you see an overblown reaction? All I see from Northam’s fellow Democrats are statements like “his service has been good but how can a governor regain trust after this” which is obviously true.

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    2. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      A lot of Republican reactions seem disingenuous (as the same people defend Trump, Steve King etc and Northam’s opponent ran a Confederacy-praising campaign), but is a pretty standard way for opposition to take jabs at a sitting governor.

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    3. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      Remember who he is. This is not an author being boycotted or an electrician being fired. It’s an elected official at the highest level. He’s only there because the people elected him, and many would not have done so had they had this info.

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 3
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      And the question of "who he is" - well, in my view he certainly isn't the person he was when he was 18. Would you want to be held responsible now for your behavior as an 18 year old? I would consider it a travesty of justice if I were held accountable from my teenage behavior.

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 3
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      Back then, if social media had been around, I would absolutely have been part of dogpiling mobs. I don't think I should be held accountable for that now. My 18 year old self is gone. (Similarly, I shouldn't get any credit now for the good things I did then.)

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    6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      Have you considered the fact that both you and @Metamagician are commenting on an event in a country in which you don’t live? That your understanding of the context may be crucially lacking because of that? Also, he wasn’t 18 when he finished medical school. He was 25.

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    7. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 3
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      That's not an argument. It's a rhetorical move. Also, there's plenty of reason to suppose that living in a country does not give people a good appreciation of these sorts of issues. See, for example, 'The nature of belief systems in mass publics' by Converse (an early classic).

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    8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      Your “social media mobs” rant was certainly not an argument - not a *relevant* argument at least (anything can be called an argument without that qualification). You (and @Metamagician) are making a category error.

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    9. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 3
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      My social media mobs rant was part of a claim, which I can back up by providing evidence. Start with Dan Arel's feed, and go from there. It forms part of an *argument*. Your rejoinder needed to be an argument, but it wasn't - it was just a rheotorical move.

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    10. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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      20% of Virginians are African Americans, and an overwhelming majority of them voted for Northam. Also, an overwhelming majority of them are not on Twitter, but I challenge you to find more than a handful who think this is OK or not relevant for their vote.

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp Feb 3
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      But that's not what I'm talking about (and it's not what Russell is talking about). We're talking about the outraged social media reaction, that inevitably feeds into the wider debate in a way that almost guarantees an injustice will occur.

      7:29 AM - 3 Feb 2019
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        1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus Feb 3
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          But your “social media” focus is absurd. None of this issue is social-media driven (unless you count yearbooks as “social media” which would admittedly be defensible). Besides, social media is about the only place you’ll find people *defending* Northam.

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