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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      Well, I'm not inclined to think of it in terms of class. But there's a difference between a politics that seeks to break down distinctions between identity groups, emphasizing what binds people together, rather than what separates them... 1/

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    2. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      and perhaps uniting behind particular universal policy commitments - e.g., eradication of poverty, drive for equality, increased educational access - and a politics that seeks to preserve disparate identities, and valorizes those in political, moral & epistemic terms, making 2/

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      them the organizing principle of any political engagement. The first can aim towards hegemony in the Gramscian sense (i.e., it seeks to build a single unified movement that dominates the ideological terrain). The second will inevitably flounder precisely in the relations...

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      of inclusion and exclusion it fosters. The second is characteristic of identity politics. Hegemonic interventions don't have to be class aligned. For example, the sociologist Stuart Hall conceptualised Thatcherism as a hegemonic project (authoritarian populism).

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    5. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      And I don't think you're ignorant, by any means. It's just identity and politics is the subject of my PhD so I think I have the advantage. Sorry, but there you go.

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    6. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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      And you obviously have loads more knowledge in that area. But we’re not having an academic discussion here, neither am I questioning your expertise. Also, your expertise in a discipline is separate from the discipline’s foundations. And I have a handy example...

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    7. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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      ...because my own PhD is in the area of economics that models the economy as a collection of perfectly rational agents with perfect foresight. I’d say I know a lot about such models. Yet, if an intelligent layperson questions the very foundations of that theory...

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    8. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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      ...I don’t necessarily have an advantage because of my expertise. Well, I do, insofar as I studied the limitations of my theory’s applicability and alternative models that are useful when my models fail...

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    9. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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      But one can be a veritable expert in a field and not understand the field’s limitations. (I believe you are not that kind of expert, as you seem to have a broad perspective shaped by pre-academic life experiences.)

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    10. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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      Anyway, that was an attempt to clarify in which ways I feel comfortable and justified debating on your turf, and which types of arguments I’ll concede due to your superior knowledge. (And I didn’t miss or ignore your point about relative nature of my ignorance.)

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      Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp 12 Jun 2018
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      Sure, I understand. You know I wouldn't engage with you if I didn't think it worthwhile or interesting; and that you're an honest interlocutor. I don't think you're trying to win. I think you're interested in getting to the heart of things. That's a virtue.

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        1. Serial Banana Citizen‏ @svenosaurus 12 Jun 2018
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          Thank you. And I similarly appreciate your engagement. Even when I still disagree with you at the end of the discussion, I still always feel I learned something.

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