Quick test to determine whether you're tribal: Did you secretly hope that Trump's talks with Kim would go badly wrong and make him look like a twit? If yes, the chances are you're tribal. If no, you might not be. (You probably still are though).
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We've had this conversation before. It's an entirely reasonable view that "left lunacy" makes losing democratic institutions more likely. For example, well there are endless examples, but 18 years of Thatcherite rule, Michael Foot & longest suicide note in history...
Or the polarization engendered by nationalist conflicts. Perfectly reasonable to suppose that though both sides are not equally bad, you're not going to get rid of the worse side before the less bad side reforms. That was absolutely certainly the case in the UK in the 1980s.
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That looks like a terrible analogy. I don’t like Thatcher, but I’m not aware of her dismantling British institutions. Maybe I don’t know enough about UK, but I probably would have heard of something like that. And Labor in 1970s was way more left than anything of note in the US.
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You're very keen on calling analogies terrible when they're nothing of the sort. It perfectly illustrates the tendency to want to see one's enemy fail even if in other circumstances you'd share their goals. This is what human beings do (see Tajfel's minimal groups research).
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BTW I gave a talk 2 weeks ago about the danger of erosion of values and quality of arguments on the liberal side as a consequence of conservatives becoming extreme. So I agree with you on the conceptual level; I just think you picked a bad specific case.
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Cool. It was just a stupid tweet!
You don't think I actually thought there were loads of liberals out there hoping for nuclear armageddon? (I think liberals are probably conflicted about Trump's role in this.) -
Why would liberals be conflicted about Trump’s role? He is a failure as usual and expected. What is there to be conflicted about?
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