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'Nasty, British and short.' Writer, journalist, social justice bard. Latest book: 'Bitch Doctrine', Bloomsbury 2017. Patreon below!

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    Laurie Penny‏Verified account @PennyRed Apr 25

    The ‘incel’ community is a trough of poisonous misogyny. This is not the first time that a man pickled in the propaganda of such forums has committed mass murder in their name. This is terrorism, just as much as any violent act of religious extremism. Call it by its name.

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      2. Solitaire_hs‏ @slackbladderPB Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed

        This 'movement' is bred via frustration, immaturity and inner-self loathing. More focus is needed by society on developing tools and resources for young boys to create healthy ways to mature and grow into adults, and calling out bad behavour.

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      3. Warren Shaver‏ @WarrenShaver Apr 25
        Replying to @slackbladderPB @PennyRed

        Or we can investigate, arrest, and imprison them. These men are broken. They aren’t mentally ill; they’re anti-social. We know this because, with all the world’s knowledge at their finger tips, they’ve chosen mass murder, acid attacks, and rape over therapy and self-care.

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      4. Solitaire_hs‏ @slackbladderPB Apr 25
        Replying to @WarrenShaver @PennyRed

        If they commit criminal activity then well, yeah, they should be investigated, as should happen with any other crime. How is that different from how things are? Being sexist, or 'just' hating women isn't a crime, as morally poor as those things are.

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      5. Warren Shaver‏ @WarrenShaver Apr 25
        Replying to @slackbladderPB @PennyRed

        They should be investigated as any other terrorist organization. That includes preemptive police action. And their names should be published. Anonymity allows their anti-social thoughts to fester into action. Also, fuck ‘em.

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      6. Solitaire_hs‏ @slackbladderPB Apr 25
        Replying to @WarrenShaver @PennyRed

        Terrorist organisations generally do illegal things. If these group also do illegal things then they should be investigated. In a liberal society, thats how it generally works. If they do non-illegal but bad things, then a light should be shone on that and should be challenged

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      7. Warren Shaver‏ @WarrenShaver Apr 25
        Replying to @slackbladderPB @PennyRed

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      8. Solitaire_hs‏ @slackbladderPB Apr 25
        Replying to @WarrenShaver @PennyRed

        You don't need to explain that truely hieous stuff gets said on the message boards of the internet. I think we're already aware of that.

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      9. Sarah the Popular and Perpetually Perturbed‏ @BustyRuffles Apr 25
        Replying to @slackbladderPB @WarrenShaver @PennyRed

        Easy for you to dismiss it. As a woman it leaves me terrified. I'm already afraid of being out after dark, parking in underground spaces, being alone with men. Now I can add acid or van attack to the ever-present fear of rape and assault. /1

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      2. M. Alghorairi  🦌‏ @atomicbutterfly Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed

        Reading the comments included in David Futrelle's article brings to mind the attack on the Ariana Grande concert.http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/04/24/incels-hail-toronto-van-driver-who-killed-10-as-a-new-elliot-rodger-talk-of-future-acid-attacks-and-mass-rapes/ …

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      3. M. Alghorairi  🦌‏ @atomicbutterfly Apr 25
        Replying to @atomicbutterfly @PennyRed

        Having said that, if you take comments made amongst women in feminist online groups at face value, it reads as "they want all men dead/enjoy making men suffer". It's hard to know much of online talk is fantasy and how much is real.

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      1. Emilie G. Gatfield‏ @EmilieGGatfield Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed @billybragg

        Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Findshttps://nyti.ms/2vI2b4j 

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      2. Wahooney‏ @Wahooney Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed

        Thing is that I still see these guys as victims, not of "women" or anything that silly, but of society. When I was younger I danced on the lip of that volcano, fortunately I didn't fall in, it's a depressing and honestly torturous place to be, with very few positive rolemodels.

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      3. Wahooney‏ @Wahooney Apr 25
        Replying to @Wahooney @PennyRed

        I'm not excusing their behaviours when those behaviours become extreme, I do understand that position you can find yourself in where your radicalisation becomes easy.

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      4. Biddeo Hoejima‏ @Luvina_things Apr 26
        Replying to @Wahooney @PennyRed

        I don't think the problem is necessarily with their treatment, but how they respond to it male rage tends to explode rather than implode. Teaching them to work through that kind of disappointment, rejection and unfairness will save lives imo

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      5. Wahooney‏ @Wahooney Apr 26
        Replying to @Luvina_things @PennyRed

        Thing is, few boys will act out in explosive rage unless it was taught to them, men internalise a lot too, but what's changing more these days is that boys go online to rationalise these feelings and too often get funnelled to MRA/incel groups who promote violent retaliations.

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      2. Surprised Face Guy‏ @SurprisedFace Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed @UrbanAchievr

        I wish there was a better word than misogyny for implying how woefully pathetic they are as people though. Even using "Incel" to make it sound like their inability to get laid makes them some kind of cool underground ninja doesn't do justice to how small they are.

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      1. Jeremy Willis‏ @JeremyPhilosoph Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed

        This is what happens when shallow thinkers with blue check marks become Twitter psychiatrists.

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      1. Chris Israel Barker‏ @downpressor Apr 26
        Replying to @PennyRed @GreatDismal

        Terrorism used to mean something more than murder

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      1. Farid Matuk‏ @matuk Apr 25
        Replying to @PennyRed

        https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=incel …

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