Pat Ryan

I think Puff blows Greninja’s regular flowchart tf up but otherwise Gren wins if he knows how to camp her right

I think they can camp eachother pretty well, Greninja's movement is insane but puff can occupy his zone and catch jumps if he tries air camping. Greninja's neuch has to change a lot whereas puff can play her game, and I think that goes a long way, especially if they're unfamiliar

Maybe I haven’t played very good Puffs but I was always under the impression it’s a slight win for Bayo, could you please explain why you think it’s even?

I haven't played top Bayos so that is based on a mix of mid level exp, theory, and Lima's tierlist, where he has Bayo-Puff even. Both chars have a hard time killing eachother, both occupy a unique space and deal decent dmg off their BnBs. A grounded puff is hard for bayo to hit

Cloud: even. ????

I think onstage cloud has the advantage for sure but it isn't as free from him as lucina, and one fthrow or nair/fair offstage and puff can gimp him at any % I haven't played a cloud that made me think he wins yet, as I assume most clouds haven't played a strong enough puff

that ridley and pichu placement looks so strange to me