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    John from Synanon‏ @ParadiseDelayed Mar 13

    R/Acc in a nutshell: 'Civilizational decay will overtake techonomic advances and it's the Cathedral's fault' Is this accurate?

    12:50 AM - 13 Mar 2018
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      2. World's Greatest Dad: Say No to Puns‏ @The_WGD Mar 13
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        I don't think it's as explicit as "it's the cathedral's fault" so much as a general "social tech has degraded, encouraging a powerful dysgenic trend that threatens all technological progress."

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. John from Synanon‏ @ParadiseDelayed Mar 13
        Replying to @The_WGD

        what do you mean specifically by 'social tech'?

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      4. World's Greatest Dad: Say No to Puns‏ @The_WGD Mar 13
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        Something like culture + religion + governance, which are the three areas Moldbug identified as Cathedral run in the US. Unless my memory is faulty, Moldbug never suggested that the Cathedral or any of its pieces have any agency.

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      5. World's Greatest Dad: Say No to Puns‏ @The_WGD Mar 13
        Replying to @The_WGD @ParadiseDelayed

        R/ACC is predicated on the idea that some people perceive this dynamic, have the agency to act on those observations, and ought to focus on building pockets with different incentive structures so as to build better social tech, thereby helping ACC reach escape velocity.

        2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      6. John from Synanon‏ @ParadiseDelayed Mar 13
        Replying to @The_WGD

        Is anyone at the moment actually doing this in practical terms, building these pockets?

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      7. World's Greatest Dad: Say No to Puns‏ @The_WGD Mar 13
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        I believe so. There are definitely men who have withdrawn from the social sphere to build local, Christian communities. Techno-Amish is one potential R/ACC future, and there are already families living this way.

        2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      8. John from Synanon‏ @ParadiseDelayed Mar 13
        Replying to @The_WGD

        Thanks, I'm just trying to get an explicit picture of what the different positions are and what the genuinely substantial disagreements are

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. World's Greatest Dad: Say No to Puns‏ @The_WGD Mar 13
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        TBH, I find the disagreements largely motivated by tribalism. If acceleration is inevitable and unconditional, there's no reason to argue it. If it's ushering in the post-human (which is a nonsensical idea, anthropologicaly), human political distinctions are irrelevant.

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      2. |||||‏ @insurrealist Mar 16
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        Nope.

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      3. John from Synanon‏ @ParadiseDelayed Mar 16
        Replying to @insurrealist

        What is an accurate summary then?

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      4. |||||‏ @insurrealist Mar 17
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        "Minimize total entropy production" probably.

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      2. Call Of Spooky: Ghosts‏ @PomoPsiOp Mar 13
        Replying to @ParadiseDelayed

        As far as I can tell.

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      3. Call Of Spooky: Ghosts‏ @PomoPsiOp Mar 13
        Replying to @PomoPsiOp @ParadiseDelayed

        Whereas I understand the U/Acc position to be. "Civilizational decay is the natural result of technomomic advances, and thinking you can have the latter without the former is pathetic meatbag arrogance."

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      4. Call Of Spooky: Ghosts‏ @PomoPsiOp Mar 13
        Replying to @PomoPsiOp @ParadiseDelayed

        I'm not sure if any actual L/Acc still exist, unless you count the generic liberal belief in progress. Although a lot of L/Acc criticisms on U/Acc seem to be mistaking it for a fundamentally left wing position.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      5. Rei Murasame 村雨れい‏ @ReiMurasame Mar 13
        Replying to @PomoPsiOp @ParadiseDelayed

        L/Acc is literally now one and the same as the Fabian strategy, it's only successful insofar as everyone forgets that we are there, especially the liberals.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. Rei Murasame 村雨れい‏ @ReiMurasame Mar 13
        Replying to @ReiMurasame @PomoPsiOp @ParadiseDelayed

        "For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless." — A. M. McBriar, 1962

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