This functioned well half a century ago, but I gather Catholic Church has critical shortage of priests. Sacrificing reality to principle?
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Replying to @Meaningness @DouthatNYT
my point is that it functions perennially. People wanted sex/families/money 200 yrs ago too. only money changed, other variables did not
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Replying to @robert_mariani
Yes; but insisting that this change doesn’t matter may be dooming the Church in rich countries.
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Replying to @Meaningness
I'm just saying it matters less when being a cleric is a vocation (with vows) instead of mere employment
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Replying to @robert_mariani
I see your point, but my understanding is that the Catholic Church has much more of a problem attracting clergy than Protestant ones.
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Replying to @Meaningness
a lot of those numbers can be chalked down to clergy essentially being volunteer side-jobs in a lot of Protestant churches
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Replying to @robert_mariani
Yes, that’s closely analogous to the problem in Western Buddhism, where it’s expected that virtually all the clergy are amateurs w/ day jobs
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Replying to @Meaningness
why do Western Buddhists have problems with a vow of poverty? Isn't this an indictment of Western Buddhism?
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Replying to @robert_mariani
The Catholic Church does give those who take a vow of poverty food and shelter. There’s no mechanism for that in Western Buddhism.
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Replying to @Meaningness @robert_mariani
There are some buddhist monastic institutions in the west though, this is not completely the case?
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The model is basically charging for retreats
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Replying to @ParadiseDelayed @robert_mariani
Yes; but very few Buddhist teachers can gather enough students and charge them enough for this to provide them with full-time support.
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