Not true, you actually can't firestall at all with fox or Falco since there is a window to steal the edge from them.https://twitter.com/Laudandus/status/1176321894217183233 …
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If you shine firestall they can hit you since by the time you shine then jump to firestall to the ledge you're already ran out of invincibility.
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Falco actually doesn’t lose invincibility if he shine up b’s but I’m not sure abt fox. I don’t see why it would be different but I just know for sure falco is full invincible with shine up b stall
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