Deng Xiaoping initiated sustainable industrialization in China whilst massively improving agricultural conditions, so no.
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Replying to @Outsideness @RealEnverHoxha
... Suppressing markets kills a whole bunch of people for no reason. The hold-outs on that thesis are a desperate and dying breed.
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Replying to @Outsideness
It certainly does kill a whole bunch of people, but so does the creation of markets. Neither of those events happens for no reason. It's widely established in developmental economics that the more backwards a country is, the more it's state needs to step in for it to catch up.
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Replying to @RealEnverHoxha
Everywhere command-economy methods have been attempted in under-developed societies, they have been a catastrophe.
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Replying to @Outsideness
They still delivered the goods, in most places, of rapid industrialization. Whether they are the /best/ way, is certainly debatable, but it's not what's best that gets implemented, but what is materially possible.
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Nope. Soviet Union, pre-Deng Communist China, Nehru's India, Pre Doi Moi Vietnamese communism, Nyere's Tanzania ... all calamitous failures. ...
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Replying to @Outsideness
Nehru didn't have a command economy, for one, two, it is an empirical fact that the soviet union did industrialize, as did most of the eastern european countries.
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Replying to @RealEnverHoxha
They built a lot of economically dysfunctional industrial capacity. It's like fast-tracking a rust-belt.
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Replying to @Outsideness
Up until the productivity collapse in the 80s, it did deliver the goods, maybe not as high quality as the west, but it was indeed an industrial society.
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China's command economy industrial star zones are now its basket cases. It was the Marxist version of cargo cultism. ...
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... "Let's build something that looks like what a real economy does and the gods will shower development on us." -- Demonstrably, no.
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Replying to @Outsideness
There were valuable industries in the soviet union, you need to look no further than the oligarchs that pilfered them during the collapse. Speaking of which, there has been no event more devastating to the russian economy than the return of capitalism, which created a depression
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Replying to @RealEnverHoxha @Outsideness
some 50% larger than the great depression.
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