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    1. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      This isn't a very accurate picture of either capitalist development or that of the communist bloc. In the west colonization provided much of the surplus resources, as well as changing market conditions that favored pastures over farmland freed up labor.

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    2. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      In terms of the communist bloc, China established food security for the first time in its history under the first few year's of communist rule. But it's also the case that these developing countries could not wait a hundred years or so to complete this process.

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    3. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      In the case of the USSR, it was clear that war would return to Europe soon, and they needed to be ready. Thus the process was violent, and quick.

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    4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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      "This omelette might require breaking a few Kulaks."

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    5. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      I don't disagree. But don't be so sanctimonious Mr. Land, this is exactly what your position is in defending global capitalism while acknowledging its status as a monstrosity

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    6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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      Deng Xiaoping initiated sustainable industrialization in China whilst massively improving agricultural conditions, so no.

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    7. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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      ... Suppressing markets kills a whole bunch of people for no reason. The hold-outs on that thesis are a desperate and dying breed.

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    8. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      It certainly does kill a whole bunch of people, but so does the creation of markets. Neither of those events happens for no reason. It's widely established in developmental economics that the more backwards a country is, the more it's state needs to step in for it to catch up.

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    9. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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      Everywhere command-economy methods have been attempted in under-developed societies, they have been a catastrophe.

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    10. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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      They still delivered the goods, in most places, of rapid industrialization. Whether they are the /best/ way, is certainly debatable, but it's not what's best that gets implemented, but what is materially possible.

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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      Nope. Soviet Union, pre-Deng Communist China, Nehru's India, Pre Doi Moi Vietnamese communism, Nyere's Tanzania ... all calamitous failures. ...

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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          ... The people who underwent these berserk experiments all understand that.

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        3. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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          There is intense nostalgia for the soviet union, Mao, and Nehru to my knowledge. I don't know enough about vietnam or tanzania to comment.

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        2. Enver Hoxha PHD‏ @RealEnverHoxha 6 May 2018
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          Nehru didn't have a command economy, for one, two, it is an empirical fact that the soviet union did industrialize, as did most of the eastern european countries.

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        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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          They built a lot of economically dysfunctional industrial capacity. It's like fast-tracking a rust-belt.

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 May 2018
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          "Production rates" is the problem. Second-hand capitalist metrics with zero-understanding of what produces techno-economic momentum.

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        1. BirdWorldist  🐦‏ @PatthewMallares 7 May 2018
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          Cia propaganda is NRx?

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