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    1. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 29 Mar 2018
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      We don't have to guess. Even if there are significant genetic differences between population groups, it still doesn't answer the question of why, if those differences are so earth-shattering, they showed up so late in the game.

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    2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 29 Mar 2018
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      Why did Rottweilers "show up so late in the game"? Breeding programs take time. Gregory Clark explains the process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Farewell_to_Alms …

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    3. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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      Directed breeding programs "take time" but undirected evolutionary processes happens really quickly? Cool story bro.

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    4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 Mar 2018
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      You're arguing with Clark, not me.

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    5. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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      I'm not arguing with anybody. I'm merely pointing out the inconsistencies in the central pillar of your argument.

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    6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 Mar 2018
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      You're not being very clear about what you think they are.

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    7. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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      Yes, I am. The question is not, why did "liberal values" emerge in NW Europe? That's an interesting question that we actually discuss. The question is, why didn't "liberal values" emerge in NW Europe earlier *if you believe that the genetic component is the key determinant*?

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    8. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 Mar 2018
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      Gregory Clark's work is precisely about this, i.e. the process of genetic modification that underpinned the emergence of capitalism in NW Europe. So, as I say, your argument is with him.

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    9. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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      You miss my point. Let's grant Clark's argument - and even you must accept that his argument is highly contested - and let's grant that this argument answers my question. You're then left with a problem: AFAICT that argument doesn't support your point.

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    10. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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      And by "your point" I'm talking about the wider trope of HBD about the "racial" element of human progress. Surely Clark's argument is about class, not race?

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 Mar 2018
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      HBD isn't just about race. It's about every type of biological variance (including sex for e.g.). And Clark's argument is definitely about race (as well as class).

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        2. Paul Currion‏ @paulcurrion 30 Mar 2018
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          Yes, that's what's useful about HBD. It can be about whatever you want it to be about.

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        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 Mar 2018
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          It's about what it says it's about, human biological diversity.

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