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    1. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @topynate where exactly does MM describe this view? I've certainly only read maybe 10% of his stuff, so, I'm open to correction @Outsideness

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    2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Jun 2015
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      @fnxTX @topynate The one post under general discussion would be a good place to start (http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carlyle-matters.html?m=1 …).

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    3. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @Outsideness @topynate Christ on sale, that is long even for MM. Skimmed; I'll return if needed. Q. Is his eventual argument as follows:

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    4. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @Outsideness @topynate IF we agree no one owns a man or his labor but he himself; THEN a man may sell his labor for any price he accepts ?

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    5. sleep geas‏ @topynate 6 Jun 2015
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      @fnxTX @Outsideness it would be closer to say 'labour is always owned by someone/something. modern society just forbids certain owners.'

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    6. sleep geas‏ @topynate 6 Jun 2015
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      @fnxTX @Outsideness but yes, the right to sell one's labour unconditionally is the first rung of the ladder Moldbug wants you to climb.

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    7. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @topynate I see no fundamental problem with this. Certain ways of interpreting it I would refute, but not the construct itself @Outsideness

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    8. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @topynate Presumably, just as a man owns himself, his labor, & the rightfully acquired products thereof (ie assets, $, etc) 1/ @Outsideness

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    9. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @topynate and if we've agreed a man cannot be forcibly parted w/ those, then can one be compelled to accept a "slave's offer"? @Outsideness

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    10. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 6 Jun 2015
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      @topynate ...I suspect not. (3/3, sorry.) So the problem sorts itself out, w/out requiring exceptions to "self-ownership", yes? @Outsideness

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Jun 2015
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      @fnxTX @topynate Moldbug knows how to hack your modernistic 'self-ownership' construction of the problem, but he ironizes it. ...

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Jun 2015
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          @fnxTX @topynate ... It's a nice universalistic story, but its roots aren't very deep. The kind of agency it presupposes is rare and recent.

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        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Jun 2015
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          @fnxTX @topynate ... Treating contractual responsibility as a fundamental feature of (adult) human nature is a fast-track to disappointment.

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