Reactionaries can't get enough Asabiyyah -- so is there any evidence it has ever won a modern war?
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Replying to @Outsideness
@Outsideness several such victories of smaller "nationalist" powers vs. larger, internally divided powers.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @PorphyCoon
@PorphyConob So once tech superiority and then 4GW factors are scraped off, what would be your candidate for the most prominent example?
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@Outsideness Afghan vs. Sov (depending on if you consider that modern) and Viet vs. US are obvious candidates. Algeria vs. France.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@PorphyConob These are very tangled up in 4GW issues. Vietnam should be ruled out on that basis (because US media won it for Charlie). ...
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@PorphyConob Afghans vs USSR more plausible, but even that was a 4GW struggle within global Cathedral-scope (not a total war). ...
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@PorphyConob Clearly the Soviets were not free to go Chinghis Khan on the Jihadis. If they had, they'd undoubtedly have won.
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@Outsideness ...Heraclius (no slouch as a innovative leader) would have kept the Arabs out of E.Rome. He didn't. Khaldun attributes Asa.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
@PorphyConob I don't think I disagree with any of this (why 'modern war' was specified). Industrialism / PR change the crucial equations.
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