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    Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 25 Aug 2014
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    Reactionaries can't get enough Asabiyyah -- so is there any evidence it has ever won a modern war?

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      2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 25 Aug 2014
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        Industrial prowess wins total wars. Domestic media lose counter-insurgency wars. Which wars get tilted decisively by Asabiyyah?

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      3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 25 Aug 2014
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        The importance of the question is obvious. If Asabiyyah doesn't really matter very much, commercial-robotic militaries will probably do OK.

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      2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 25 Aug 2014
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        @_Hurlock_ @PorphyConob Red America WAS defeated (by the Cathedral, at home). It makes no sense in 4GW to exclude the media as a factor.

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      3. ♔ Porphyrogenitus ♔‏ @PorphyCoon 25 Aug 2014
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        @Outsideness @_Hurlock_ yeah, but this is where Asa. adherents would say "that illustrates loss of Asa. and its effects," I think.

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        @existoon It needs to be sufficient to provide the enemy media time to do its work, certainly. No evidence it can do the job on its own.

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      2. ♔ Porphyrogenitus ♔‏ @PorphyCoon 25 Aug 2014
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        @Outsideness several such victories of smaller "nationalist" powers vs. larger, internally divided powers.

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      3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 25 Aug 2014
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        @PorphyConob So once tech superiority and then 4GW factors are scraped off, what would be your candidate for the most prominent example?

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      2. Whyvert‏ @whyvert 25 Aug 2014
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        @Magus_Janus @Outsideness Era of Big War selects for upsizing asabiyya; era of decline of war enables political downsizing

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        @whyvert @Magus_Janus America has done great in the era of (pre-4GW) big war, with comparatively low asabiyya.

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      2. Tomas Nau‏ @XxemoviolencexX 27 Aug 2014
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        @Outsideness The west's asabiyyah started declining and guerillas started actually winning, so you can credit it for domestic media issues

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        @marxistnixonist You really think the concept can do this much work?

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