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    1. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness speaking of, I'm tired of waiting for detail on means-ends reversal. I don't quite know what you're pointing at.

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    2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness E.g. do you mean the thing where capitalism - ostensibly a means - overrides external ends with its internal logic's ends?

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    3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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      @Alrenous Since capitalism brings people out in hives, it might be better to start with intelligence. ...

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    4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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      @Alrenous It evolved as a means for DNA propagation, then incrementally makes itself into an end -- 'served' by the organism as a substrate.

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    5. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness Ah. Thanks.

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    6. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness You mean consciousness though. Both capitalism and IQ require the survival of the substrate. Consciousness doesn't.

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    7. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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      @Alrenous I'm not allergic in principle to 'consciousness' talk -- but still lacking a handle on it that doesn't seem hopelessly slippery.

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    8. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness If you have a serious objection to my high-grip coating, I'd like to hear it so I can fix it. http://alrenous.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-mind.html …

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    9. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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      @Alrenous You can't measure or count it, application of any kind of maths seems difficult ... I'm not seeing how this research moves forward

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    10. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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      @Outsideness Physics is made of math. Consciousness is made of logic.

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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      @Alrenous Yet consciousness seems obviously intensive, hence quantitative, yet intractable to rigorous purchase in these terms.

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        1. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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          @Alrenous How does logic give you a scale of consciousness? Without that, it seems to me the 'thing' is mostly being missed.

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        2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 19 May 2014
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          @Outsideness My proof implies that intensive is not quantitative, which is why it's intractable. Go qualitative, get traction.

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        3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 19 May 2014
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          @Alrenous An intensity has to be at least ordinally quantitative (more / less).

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