@Outsideness Are you against democracy per se, or just democracy in its current, mostly representative, ways?
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@Outsideness Meaney dismisses Swiss referendums as protectionist, but actually they're quite wide-ranging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_referendums,_2013 … -
@howardvaan Switzerland has to be the most impressive case. - 1 more reply
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@howardvaan 'Liberty' includes much worth defending, but 'democracy'? -- I'm not seeing it. Egalitarian mass government has been a calamity. -
@Outsideness I would've thought liberty less feasible in non-democratic set ups.
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