@Aristokles11235 There's a lot of negative entropy in the sun. (More elsewhere.)
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@Outsideness Locally that's quite true. Can't have it both ways though. Can't claim random process one moment & talk about telos the next.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Aristokles11235 Complex dynamics does a pretty good job of bringing the two together ('order out of chaos').1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@Outsideness Complexity's a buzz word. The deus ex machina of scientific conformity.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Aristokles11235
@Aristokles11235 That's an excessively harsh dismissal. Deep teleology embraces technoscientific development as itself 'providential'.3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @Outsideness
@Outsideness The idea that given enough complexity (basically just enough shitte going on) anything is posdible smacks of fairy dust to me.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Aristokles11235 I don't disagree, but there's enough scientific method involved to bring these research programs to a productive crisis.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @Outsideness
@Outsideness We shall see. Not locked into 'carbon based' only. I just see the project of building our own god as a little quixotic.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Aristokles11235 "Building our own god" is probably more of an external judgement than an internal research and development driver.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @Outsideness
@Outsideness Grant money is the R&D driver but them that's excited about are excited b/c it's a telos. Your telos is your deity.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@Aristokles11235 Local incentives are unlikely to be clear reflections of deep teleological structures.
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Replying to @Outsideness
@Outsideness Very true. A multi- generation effort is going to involve the many motives hundreds of participants. Some not even conscious.0 replies 0 retweets 1 likeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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