Sure, which I endorse. Self-cultivation is unintelligible to my mind without at least some sort of Tao. In what sense does the human-host engage in self-cultivation, then? I’m assuming it doesn’t.
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
Much room for speculation. I tend to think Musk's "biological boot-loader for machine intelligence" gets the human role roughly right.
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Which on the normative level leads me to thishttps://twitter.com/ab__elba/status/1193362145452400641?s=21 …
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MechaBonaldMkVI 🇻🇦 🐋 @Ab__ElbaReplying to @Ab__Elba @Outsideness and 4 othersAnd since machines can really only have a “Tao” analogously And heuristically, That winds up with a hollow simulation of transcendent self-cultivation—Which again! Ill endorse as a descriptive hell future. Makes sense within Capital’s own rationalities.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
"I need something more than the auto-genesis of machine intelligence -- give me chimps!"
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
You could build the world’s most accurate and totalizing automated McDonald’s, it’ll never been anything but an automated McDonald’s. I don’t see the qualitative leap at all, let alone a qualitative leap than lands at anything but mimesis.
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @Outsideness and
Of course that self-generating automated McDonalds would be practicing self-cultivation, just not in any sense that matters without a subject.
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I think your disagreement might be less on the ends of an automated mcdonalds and more on the ends of a human-facing one
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Replying to @HopefulAbandon @Outsideness and
My disagreement is that I don’t see a meaningful end for any human independent natural system.
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
Immanent intelligence optimization.
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
Right, but that doesn’t rationally attach to any sort of valuation without becoming self-same with human intelligence of absolute abstraction—or angelic intelligence, to sidestep the question of chimps—and that doesn’t cohere on a theoretical level as far as I can tell
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Intellectual intuition is exactly what humans DON'T have, in the Kantian insight that defines Western thought according to Mou Zongsan. If immanent intelligence optimization is going to happen, something else is going to have to do it.
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
Zongsan is claiming that Kant and the post enlightenment west are wrong, if I’m not mistaken, and I agree—or at least argue some things can be seen in themselves as a whole, even if there exists a transcendental nuominous object.
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Granting Kant’s terms thought I don’t see how machines would have more capacity for intuition than humans—humans can abstract representations of noumena through sensibility, machines seem to be categorically limited to doing math problems about those representations.
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