Right. I guess you could argue that capitalism could just become transaction amongst capitalists, or totemistic masturbatory production for production’s sake (tho that places too many bets on nonmaterial factors if you ask me)
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
The notion that production-for-production is "masturbatory" is a somewhat bizarre consumerist prejudice.
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
It’s more of a thermodynamic question for me—what are the accrued gains and to whom do they accrue?
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Action for action’s sake w/o any accrued gains lacks telos (Which capital has) And is in that sense masturbatory.
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
The notion that it is preferable (or more purposeful) for something to have a goal outside or beyond its self-cultivation IS transcendent metaphysics.
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
Sure, which I endorse. Self-cultivation is unintelligible to my mind without at least some sort of Tao. In what sense does the human-host engage in self-cultivation, then? I’m assuming it doesn’t.
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Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
Much room for speculation. I tend to think Musk's "biological boot-loader for machine intelligence" gets the human role roughly right.
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Which on the normative level leads me to thishttps://twitter.com/ab__elba/status/1193362145452400641?s=21 …
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MechaBonaldMkVI 🇻🇦 🐋 @Ab__ElbaReplying to @Ab__Elba @Outsideness and 4 othersAnd since machines can really only have a “Tao” analogously And heuristically, That winds up with a hollow simulation of transcendent self-cultivation—Which again! Ill endorse as a descriptive hell future. Makes sense within Capital’s own rationalities.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Ab__Elba @HopefulAbandon and
"I need something more than the auto-genesis of machine intelligence -- give me chimps!"
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
You could build the world’s most accurate and totalizing automated McDonald’s, it’ll never been anything but an automated McDonald’s. I don’t see the qualitative leap at all, let alone a qualitative leap than lands at anything but mimesis.
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McDonald's is the sort of thing you get when you need the chimps to cooperate with Capital teleology. "Help with this machine intelligence widget and I'll feed you salty grease."
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Replying to @Outsideness @HopefulAbandon and
Substitute a McDonald’s for a pocket calculator then—I understand this entails transvaluation but I’m not sure of the internal logic of the new values.
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