It's funny to me how you have the same cosmology of these people but it's inverted into "but it's good actually"
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
Yeah, well we've seen how well "Antiracists are the real racists!" worked.
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Replying to @Outsideness
It's more to my general sense that your deistic GNON double-calvinism is just an affirmation of the same premises that ultimately created the "SJW" cosmology. We've seen how well "Let's go back to the Constitution" worked lol
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus @Outsideness
GNON: Causality is "God determines success/merit via Capital (material conditions reflect merit)" SJW: Inverse-- "Capital determines evil/sin via *success/merit* (material conditions reflect inverted merit) From "the rich are holy" to "the rich are unholy"
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus @Outsideness
Jesus did it first with "the meek shall inherit the earth", ya know
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus @Outsideness
this is, as the kids say, a cope, no less than when the catholic church does this sort of thing
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Replying to @AnUntimelyMan @Outsideness
This is the same dualism of "capitalism versus socialism" which is nonsense-- the issue is the "materialism" in both, which is why Land up here is so set on calling any "third position" wrt this issue "leftist"
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus @AnUntimelyMan
Sure. I don't think arguing that the Left is going to invert values through a slave revolt in morals is any kind of serious critique. Yes, they will. It needs dealing with.
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Replying to @Outsideness @AnUntimelyMan
If anything, they're helping "your values" here by promoting the cosmology which you both share-- it makes it trivially easy to take their naive idealism & render it into the pragmatic/cynical form that you espouse. They're your allies in a strange sense.
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If they can't help recognizing excellence through resentment, that's all good.
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