I was with @robinhanson until the “art and design” part. As we see today, design and art are equally susceptible to degeneration as anything else.
Moreover Robin makes false modernist dichotomies about form and function as if aesthetics are solely status games and nothing more.https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1180356538369576960 …
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... When "well-designed" ceases to mean "works elegantly" the plot is lost.
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> Non-degenerate art and design is fully-specified by engineering imperatives All true. And yet aesthetics as engineering itself is easily aestheticized to the detriment of aesthetics itself. For this reason it’s important to maintain a discourse around the specific discipline.
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