... Ignorant, over-emotional, and empowered.
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Replying to @Outsideness
i mean, the science on climate change is indisputable, their over-emotional bc unlike you (and me, to fair...can one be a left pessimist?) they don't want the world to end, and they're empowered because...helicopter parents
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Replying to @theminorarcana
When you're implicitly saying "The science indisputably tells us the world is about to end!" you've left the road.
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Replying to @Outsideness
how so? i'm not being snarky. i'm attempting to understand the metaphor.
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Replying to @theminorarcana
The rough scientific consensus is that the world is going to get a little warmer (and greener) over the next century. The rest is whipped-up hysteria.
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Replying to @Outsideness
It will certainly have deleterious effects for human life, I guess was my point. Rise in sea level, more intense storms, increased wild fires, droughts, and disease. That's all part and parcel with "a little warmer." & that's assuming methane beneath permafrost doesn't leak
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Replying to @theminorarcana
It's certainly a vastly less serious problem than planetary dysgenic collapse.
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Replying to @Outsideness
I don't really subscribe to the notion at the heart of dysgenic collapse, mostly because it presumes we in the present somehow know what selection for the future should optimize without knowing the future, but...thought experiment:
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Replying to @theminorarcana
Why should the assumption of an optimized terrestrial climate be any easier?
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Replying to @Outsideness
because we understand how homeostasis works and how ecosystems function. we understand how CO2 and methane trap warmth, we understand how that warmth acidifies the ocean, raises their levels, and contributes to all sorts of problems. it's not an assumption.
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We also understand that CO2 is a trace gas, that solar variation is the main driver of climate change, that plants like CO2 (and greenhouses), and that the terrestrial climate is almost incomprehensibly complex, involving a vast number of causal factors.
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Replying to @Outsideness
anyway, i need to sleep and i imagine we're approaching the point of diminishing returns as we are simply doomed to disagree, me being the unadulterated lefty that i am, but thanks for the conversation and be well
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