So the key to understanding the inner structure of capitalist civilization is romantic vitalism on 'shrooms?
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Replying to @Outsideness @EBBerger
... "Time was all flowing and sheeeeit -- but then capitalism happened."
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Replying to @Outsideness @EBBerger
He's not wholly off base though, think of Dreamtime, or "island time," or the Amazon tribe with no sense of the abstract, including time People who quantify time get things done
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I suspect the evolutionarily novel future time preference that emerged among ice people is, at bottom, the factor largely responsible for runaway snowballing capitalism and its discontents.
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Replying to @demontage2000 @17cShyteposter and
Capitalism is not a necessary outcome of high time preference though. Agriculture is (or vice versa), but commerce is a derivative of these, a thing made possible by them. Time preference divides middle class from lower class, but wealth is not distributed to the most patient.
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Replying to @kapetanenas @demontage2000 and
Right, it's distributed to those who understand time and also have the will to attack it Combo of smarts and vitalism
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Replying to @17cShyteposter @demontage2000 and
Those determine the top of any hierarchy. Industrial capitalism in particular uses those traits to its own ends, and escapes judgement from smart and vital people because its palaces are filled with this type. But capitalism is just another liberal institution.
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Replying to @kapetanenas @17cShyteposter and
Isn't it the only liberal institution?
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Replying to @Outsideness @17cShyteposter and
Insofar as all institutions are either a marketplace or a barracks. But really the first alternative to the latter was the bureaucratic temple, which leaves the market as a descendant of bureaucracy, and not vice versa.
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Replying to @kapetanenas @Outsideness and
I'm trying to provoke you Mr Land
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Temple markets were important over here in China, too, into the modern period, so I'm forced to reluctantly nod.
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