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    1. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Apr 23
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      No, we're beyond that. Black Box neural nets don't depend upon us understanding how they're igniting intelligenesis. Which is good, because we're almost certainly too dim to do so.

      3 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
    2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Apr 24
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      Neural nets will never produce consciousness. Which means it almost certainly will never be smarter than a person.

      7 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    3. Trash Wizard‏ @smudgie_buggler Apr 24
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      It’s not at all clear why this should be the case. What’s so special about the blood-and-goo instantiation of thought-architecture?

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    4. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Apr 25
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      Neural nets are just math. Consciousness requires specialized hardware.

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    5. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Apr 25
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      If neural nets are conscious you could write the formula on a piece of paper and then the paper would be alive.

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    6. Trash Wizard‏ @smudgie_buggler Apr 25
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      This doesn’t follow, as far as I’m concerned. Transcribed software doesn’t compute any function any more than musical notation has pitch or rhythm.

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    7. Trash Wizard‏ @smudgie_buggler Apr 25
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      Perfectly willing to entertain that neural nets themselves aren’t qualia-apt no matter how sophisticated (in fact this seems likely). But if I’m understanding you, you don’t think consciousness is capable of being virtualised by a Turing machine. Why?

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    8. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Apr 25
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      Because encoding is arbitrary. If one Turing machine is conscious, every Turing machine is conscious. And everything is a component of some Turing machine, so everything is multiple consciousnesses. In reality consciousness takes specific, expensive machinery.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Apr 25
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      Replying to @Alrenous @smudgie_buggler @chaosprime

      "[C]onsciousness takes specific, expensive machinery." -- This seems extremely evolutionarily improbable.

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    10. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Apr 25
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      Replying to @Outsideness @Alrenous and

      ... Not only does consciousness (as such) almost certainly come for free, but there's probably a discount on the comparatively dodgy comes-with-consciousness version of the cognitive systems it's associated with.

      4 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Apr 25
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      "Whoa, that seems cheap!" "Yeah, it's a great deal ... thing is it fritzes out into consciousness a little ..." "A little?" * laughs nervously * "Well, it's not as if it goes full-Buddhism, or anything ... necessarily." "Can I take a look at the other models?"

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        2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Apr 26
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          Replying to @Outsideness @smudgie_buggler @chaosprime

          There's nothing rocks do that's special vis a vis neural nets. It's all just math knocking against itself. Like there's panpsychism and then there's PANpsychism where rocks have not only one full-fledged human-sized mind, but more than one.

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        3. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade Apr 27
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          "it's all just math" it's most definitely not the same math, though.

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        1. Alexandre Porto‏ @PortoAncap Apr 25
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          "Sure" said J F Sebastian

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