... Neglect is more basic even than Exit.
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Replying to @Outsideness @masondemaistre and
Its distinctness from dominance is at the ideological core of liberalism, the insistence that despite the universality of 'the market', my property has nothing to do with anybody else's, and they're *mean* to insist otherwise
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Replying to @adornofthagn @masondemaistre and
You have to say this, but that doesn't mean it makes much sense. "Because trade happens pretty much everywhere your stuff is kind of dialectically mine." ...
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Replying to @Outsideness @adornofthagn and
... Once envy monkeys get involved its inevitable that property will be continually misinterpreted as a social relation (rather than a cryptosecurity solution). ...
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Replying to @Outsideness @adornofthagn and
... "You only own what we've agreed I'm not going to steal" is the leftist version of "I've thief-proofed my stash".
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Replying to @Outsideness @masondemaistre and
fwiw, thinking that property can become non-social through the improvement of padlocks does take liberalism to some sort of logical conclusion, but as usual the tendency to fall for this logic is heavily predicated upon reasonably expected returns
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Replying to @adornofthagn @masondemaistre and
Property is roughly equivalent to padlockability (agreed). To think even very crude padlocks are soluble in a social relation seems weird.
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Replying to @Outsideness @masondemaistre and
it's only weird if you discount how property is acquired, rather than just held onto
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Replying to @adornofthagn @masondemaistre and
The fact that property is overwhelmingly acquired through a social process is entirely logically distinct from the claim that property itself is a social relation. (But of course you can't agree.)
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Replying to @Outsideness @masondemaistre and
well it's not like it's the padlocks that are assembling any prospective breakaway intelligences, even in their case the interesting story is how to get them and how acquisition gets warped by them
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The political motivation of holding to the "social relation" interpretation is the polemical rider that property exists only by tacit (alienated) collective permission, susceptible to revolutionary withdrawal. ...
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Replying to @Outsideness @adornofthagn and
... To which the correct rightist response is not "I disagree" but rather "μολὼν λαβέ" or better still cryptic neglect.
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Replying to @Outsideness @masondemaistre and
Quite right, after all coming and taking it is the actual plan
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