War is to geopolitics what catallaxy is to economics. (Economic competition isn't really "oppositional" either.)
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Replying to @Outsideness @meta_nomad
>competition isn't really "oppositional" How did you put these words in this order with a straight face? Also, it should be obvious I'm talking about things way closer to the metal, so to speak, than geopolitics.
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Replying to @insurrealist @Outsideness
*Human* competition isn't oppositional to the outside.
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Replying to @meta_nomad @Outsideness
Separation between some inside and outside already enables negation, how does that remain fully positive?
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(moreover, who gives a shit about humans)
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Replying to @insurrealist @Outsideness
No one, hence the supposed opposition *of* humanity is engulfed, in its entirety, by the processes.
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Replying to @meta_nomad @Outsideness
I'm talking about game semantics (and thus any identifiable parties in conflict, be they objects, processes, whatever), not people.
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It isn't oppositional, in so much as two football teams, engaged in *competition* in an individual game of football, are simultaneously engaged in propagation the (big game) sport of football, through the (small game) individual match itself.
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By the same moronic token nature is "fully negative" due to the inevitability of heat death and its (tragic and ironic) catalysis by way of intelligent behavior, in fact that's precisely the point that dissipative systems theory makes. https://homepages.eawag.ch/~matthebl/pdfs/Loudon_EE2016.pdf …pic.twitter.com/I0Jx6z4SoU
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Can anything with an asymptote to zero (in this case free energy) ever be strictly 'negative'?
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Negative is the operation of the dissipative system on its ecosystems' free energy, making it a homeostatic mechanism to keep the universe at zero. My practical motivation for this dispute though is that I don't see how positive desire can be adequate to think about singularity.
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Singularity is what boundary formation looks like in the wild and negation is essentially exchange between boundaries, so it looks pretty indispensable to me.
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