They can. But it’s not necessary or sufficient. You can just keep outsourcing more to the state. Scandinavia has been pushing in that direction without fascism. It just feels like you’re being rhetorical at the sake of clarity.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI
"Scandinavia has been pushing in that direction without fascism." -- I strongly disagree.
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Replying to @Outsideness
Do you have a premise that more socialism is logically equivalent to more coercion, or is conceivable to have one without the other?
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Replying to @RealtimeAI
Definitely the former. But happy to let experiments with alternative premises proceed at appropriate scale.
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Replying to @Outsideness
Could you imagine a potentially small enough community agreeing together to share their combined resources and this just becomes impossible at sufficient scale?
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Replying to @RealtimeAI
Dunbar-number scale communes have happened frequently. But they tend not to last long. (Not my problem -- go for it.)
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Replying to @Outsideness
Sorry for the question-pepper, but one more if you don’t mind. Is there any scalable government that is not somewhere on the fascism / coercion spectrum?
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Replying to @RealtimeAI
You mean the fascism / liberty spectrum? (If you're just going fascist on your small number of fellow cultists it's so obviously not anyone else's problem we tend reasonably enough to an alternative vocabulary.)
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Replying to @Outsideness
So I mean, towards the fascism side of that spectrum. What I’m thinking is that government (I think) always involves some kind of funding / public work. Is there some specific point when it becomes socialism? I see socialism itself as just a spectrum away from freer markets.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI
This is a good question. There's often a crisis in a socialist regime that marks a transition into the fascist phase, with new policies, but doubt this is an entirely reliable indicator. ...
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... When examined as a dynamic, rather than an institution, socialism is a steepening curve into Left Singularity (catastrophic social calamity), while fascism approximates to a domestic steady-state. ...
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