Everyone who's getting excited about UBI should look into the Fair Tax plan. A portion of that plan has always essentially been UBI.
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Replying to @Outsideness @HbdNrx
... Realize there's going to be a huge "feature not bug" constituency on this. Gnon will punish it.
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Replying to @Outsideness
Consider the Alaska permanent fund payments--these seem to be working out ok. Promoting income for everyone sufficient to live on is a mistake, but I think it's quite reasonable to have some dividend for citizenship. Just make sure it doesn't make the dysgenics worse.
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Replying to @HbdNrx @Outsideness
And of course if you start replacing other welfare policies with it, you might actually end up with a substantially more efficient system.
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Replying to @HbdNrx @Outsideness
So, only stakeholders( producers/capital investors) should be receiving dividends? Isn't this a fundamental principle of nrx?
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Replying to @helios_unbound @Outsideness
We could convert today's voting rights into ownership shares of the government. Even if we don't, at least people might have a more obvious incentive against dilution if they see that their payment declines as more people come in.
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Replying to @HbdNrx @helios_unbound
Far superior idea, as long as the shares are tradable.
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Hard to know what is going to happen anymore. At least talking about it might eventually drive people to provide reasons for rejecting the idea -- which would be illuminating.
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Replying to @Outsideness @KatieMcCoy113 and
hopefully it breaks the US far and wide enough for patchwork dynamics to take over.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @Outsideness and
A large number of decentralized units organized with voluntary mutual defense and commerce agreements are far more resilient than a large uniform unit.
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