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    1. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 4
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      "... many American Jews wince when they think or talk about Israel, and many Israelis wince when they think or talk about American Jewry." https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2018/07/can-american-and-israeli-jews-stay-together-as-one-people/ … ...

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    2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 4
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      ... Ironically enough, the intensity of diaspora Jewish "dual loyalty" has a strong positive correlation with American patriotism.

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    3. Brandon Adamson‏ @brandonadamson Mar 4
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      Except that they attempt to redefine American patriotism as "military support for wars which benefit Israel." They're happy to "patriotically" wave the US flag for that. When patriotism is associated with "America acting in its own best interests," they call that unpatriotic

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    4. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 5
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      The ones most likely to oppose America acting in its own best interests tend to be the same ones who think Netanyahu is a monster and that Israel is being embarrassingly beastly to the Palestinians.

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    5. Brandon Adamson‏ @brandonadamson Mar 5
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      Neocons like David Frum, Shapiro, Kristol, Goldberg etc are opposed to America acting in its own interests. The con is to get Americans to associate patriotism intrinsically with support for Israel. American interest would be to avoid US involvement in these Middle East conflicts

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    6. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 5
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      To a degree, but the US has been dragged into that poisonous briar-patch by Saudi Arabia as much as by Israel.

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    7. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 5
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      ... The Israeli entanglement has just had a more feel-good character to it.

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    8. Brandon Adamson‏ @brandonadamson Mar 5
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      The Saudis don't need to manipulate Americans into accepting new definitions of patriotism. They have oil we need, so there is at least some grudging interest there in appeasing them. Saudis don't have an army of ethnic loyalists in the US media propagandizing for them daily tho.

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 5
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      Sure, but it's also been repeatedly convenient to package a war in defense of the House of Saud as if it were more fundamentally a war in defense of "the Middle East's only democracy".

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        2. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness Mar 5
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          ... That's why the oil-based geopolitical hard-realists have often found the neocon hackery quite useful.

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        2. Brandon Adamson‏ @brandonadamson Mar 5
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          I think that packaging is due to the ethnocentric view of those pushing these wars. They can't help but make *everything* about Israel. I personally don't care what Israel does to Palestians, Syrians or even its own citizens. I just resent being conned into thinking it's my fight

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          You're right about the oil hard realists utilizing neocon hackery. They don't use the "fun Israel democracy" angle though so much as the old "evil dictator who uses chemical weapons" gag. That one has more geographic portability. They can use it as an excuse to bomb anywhere.

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