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    1. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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      Anything with an EROEI higher than 1 can power an arbitrarily large energy budget. If spot energy density is really that important you use the excess to construct gasoline.

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    2. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 6 Dec 2018
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      his point is that there's nothing with EROEI larger than one ready to be deployed after the end of oil (and, in fact, that the extraction of current oil reserves are quickly plunging below that limit)

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    3. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 6 Dec 2018
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      I haven't seen any data on his part, though.

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    4. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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      That's nonsense. Coal and nuclear both qualify nicely. If you're really scraping the barrel you do things like desert wind towers being used to power electrolytic cracking, because hydrogen leaks less than high-voltage lines.

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    5. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 6 Dec 2018
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      this considering the whole cost of manufacture and maintenance of the respective power plants? (I really have no idea)

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    6. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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      Energy from coal is actually cheaper as long as it doesn't have to be transported very far. It merely doesn't make a good car fuel for obvious reasons.

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    7. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130204094656.htm … This is the result you generally get.

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    8. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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      Cost per GJ, coal: $16 AUD gasoline: $25 AUD

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    9. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 6 Dec 2018
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      time to turn the shipping furnaces back on

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    10. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Dec 2018
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      Yeah, but let the market sort it out. Ridiculous intellectual attempts to second guess energy markets are silly beyond description.

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 6 Dec 2018
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      ... Anyone who made the call a decade ago that the US would be the world's greatest hydrocarbons producer now I'll listen to with respect.

      9:39 AM - 6 Dec 2018
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        2. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 6 Dec 2018
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          well, fair enough, just trying to play the devil's advocate, but I'm really bad a lawyering

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        3. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 6 Dec 2018
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          The energy market is seriously distorted by government meddling e.g. carbon taxes on coal. It's quite possible that ships should still run on coal, but prices are buggered.

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