how about Greer's point that any other energy sources will necessarily be less dense and therefore have a smaller EROEI than oil?
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Anything with an EROEI higher than 1 can power an arbitrarily large energy budget. If spot energy density is really that important you use the excess to construct gasoline.
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his point is that there's nothing with EROEI larger than one ready to be deployed after the end of oil (and, in fact, that the extraction of current oil reserves are quickly plunging below that limit)
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @Alrenous and
I haven't seen any data on his part, though.
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That's nonsense. Coal and nuclear both qualify nicely. If you're really scraping the barrel you do things like desert wind towers being used to power electrolytic cracking, because hydrogen leaks less than high-voltage lines.
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this considering the whole cost of manufacture and maintenance of the respective power plants? (I really have no idea)
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Energy from coal is actually cheaper as long as it doesn't have to be transported very far. It merely doesn't make a good car fuel for obvious reasons.
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Replying to @Alrenous @cyborg_nomade and
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130204094656.htm … This is the result you generally get.
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Replying to @Alrenous @cyborg_nomade and
Cost per GJ, coal: $16 AUD gasoline: $25 AUD
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time to turn the shipping furnaces back on
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Yeah, but let the market sort it out. Ridiculous intellectual attempts to second guess energy markets are silly beyond description.
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Replying to @Outsideness @cyborg_nomade and
... Anyone who made the call a decade ago that the US would be the world's greatest hydrocarbons producer now I'll listen to with respect.
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well, fair enough, just trying to play the devil's advocate, but I'm really bad a lawyering
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