Because of climate change we have ~15 years to build a viable alternative to industrial capitalism. Any politics which opts for experimentation as an alternative to a concrete political program is a nonstarter. We don't have time to waste on reformism or pointless experimentation
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2033 can get fucked. People from the present are the ones running things. Fragmentation I get, but fragmentation doesn't necessarily entail disorganization. Reorganizing society is more likely than it falling into disarray, and people aren't likely to redo industrial capitalism.
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yeah, there’s always an “organization” of society, ofc. catastrophic climate change will necessitate a new one, and the question for me is will it be predominately left and cooperative or right and brutal
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You both neglect the possibility of dark green hegemony. Eco-totalitarian religion could accomplish this with proper ratchets. Gigadeaths still mandatory.
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The problem with that idea is most people don't particularly like dying or being dominated by the state.
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If climate change makes it so all bets are off with current international norms we won't be seeing a rise of fragmentation as in terms of decentralization, but a massive wave of imperialism.
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