I s’pose this is baked into the cake already, Z/Acc exists and other flavors are arguably also inherently pessimistic
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I don’t think
@Outsideness would claim it’s bad, but that humanist ethics are confused. I think the classic L/Acc take was something like “let’s make a robo commie utopia/FALC” which is obviously naive/irrational in its optimism. Would you say Dec is pessimistic in the long term?2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes -
Replying to @JinnAndSoda @linkolawave
Teleo-mechanical diagonalization doesn't leave a slot of free volition available to say: "X is good." ...
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... X is either promoting its emergence effectively, or not.
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Who exactly should the slot be left open to register the {good} descriptor— Even a teleological movement has to accurately refer to histor(icities) and be a logical continuation at least.
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Replying to @CtrlRetrnRpresd @linkolawave
Practical affirmation or negation is a cybernetic function. To posit a judging subject, transcending the dynamic under evaluation and marking it with a +/- moral sign from beyond, is roughly as crude as metaphysics ever gets.
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... Rather: A positive (or explosive) cybernetic process affirms itself, by definition. A negative (or trapped) cybernetic process is denied, when it exceeds set limits, by a subject positioned as a pseudo-transcendent calibrator.
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... Nature doesn't produce neutral ecology-cops, but it evidently produces beings who think it does.
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Certainly none that a bunch of dim apes are likely to grok.
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The biosphere has been doing "ever increasing complexity" for over four billion years. (So looking down also works fine.)
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