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    1. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 29 May 2018
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      Then how come they are able to test game theory strategies? (Even a computer game AI emulates agency.)

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    2. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 29 May 2018
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      'Agency' in the sense of being able to generate its own intentions, rather than calibrate towards some predetermined end-state conditions.

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    3. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 29 May 2018
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      There's no reason to think humans are capable of "generating their own intentions". Schopenhauer certainly thought this was impossible. ...

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    4. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 29 May 2018
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      Arguments for or against creative intentionality remain handwaving at best. The epistemics to falsify it aren't there. Either way, humans at least appear to be doing something like it in a way that machines are not.

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    5. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 29 May 2018
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      Humans provably inject intentions in a way that computers with current hardware cannot. Which is why I make a distinction between AI and artificial consciousness.

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    6. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 30 May 2018
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      I think we agree. Though I see consciousness as requisite to the phenomenon of intelligence.

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    7. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 30 May 2018
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      Bots can obviously behave in a less-dumb way, approximating intelligence. I see no reason to suppose it is 'only' an approximation. I thus define intelligence as the three bit-manipuations, learning, processing, and creating.

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    8. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 30 May 2018
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      Put another way, AI researchers are trying to make computers more useful, and they are in fact getting more useful. It seems as if they're successfully researching intelligence.

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    9. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 30 May 2018
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      They are getting more useful—albeit largely as a function of raw processing power available. While core AI methodology remains ossified in what it was decades ago, lacking serious conceptualization of what it is they think they're trying to accomplish.

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    10. Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 May 2018
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      It's exactly because the driver is "raw processing power" that it escapes human cognitive limits. (Moravec understood this decades ago.) ...

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      Outsideness‏ @Outsideness 30 May 2018
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      ... AI isn't an intellectual project. It's an intensive function of machine capability.

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        2. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 30 May 2018
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          There have been (and will continue to be) useful side effects of that. But doesn't appear it'll be replacing the human facilitators any time soon.

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        3. class warmonger‏ @cyborg_nomade 31 May 2018
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          it doesn't have tohttps://twitter.com/cyborg_nomade/status/903673748821336065?s=20 …

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          basically, if raw materials extraction, plant assemblage, energy production and weapons control are automated, humans are already cooked.
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        2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 30 May 2018
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          Which makes the State-induced stalling of Moore's law a critical problem.

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        3. ɹʞɔɟɯ 🥩 🏴 📉‏ @mfckr_ 30 May 2018
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          Seems more a confluence of perverse incentives. Not enough money interested in making computers faster, so long as they're fast enough to keep slinging ads & dopamine shenanigans at people.

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