Dr Zuleyka Zevallos

Sean I'm sure you're trying your best, but intention does not equal impact. You are perfectly parroting the same excuses from last year. "Not enough time" being one. There's *always* enough time to be inclusive. It's about what you prioritise.

Agreed. It may not in their priorities due to lack of handover or awareness. A small number of volunteers and lack of effective handover increases the likelihood of it not being prioritised. We need active participation from a diverse group of people, which sometimes is missing.

2/ This is also the second time today you're alluding to the "small number of volunteers" as a problem. POC & other URM do A LOT MORE with much less volunteers & resources yet we still manage to be inclusive. And for the record, minorities do much more volunteering than others.

Yes - we are dealing with a very small number of individuals. The individuals who have volunteered for some marches may not have sufficient representation to cover diverse views and may not be fully aware of diversity issues. In some cases they may have been "press-ganged".

You are talking on this thread to minority women who carry the load for all of AUS science through our individual actions, on many fronts. We do A LOT MORE with much lower numbers ALL THE TIME. So much wrong with what you're saying, how you say it, & who you're saying it to.

In what way? I really am missing your point with me speaking on science march organising issues. I am also familiar with low numbers pushing forward doing a lot with little, the small fraction of professionals who volunteer. Please point out where I am wrong so that I can learn.

It's not up to minorities to make events inclusive. They shouldn't have to keep explaining where you are going wrong and listening to your weak excuses. Don't blame others for what's happening here. Zuleyka went through this last time. She's not obliged to teach you how to fix it