Dr Zuleyka Zevallos

3/ You're also calling into question the fact that few people volunteered to your cause and linking this to lack of "diverse" volunteers. Why would underrepresented minorities want to volunteer when you all did not listen to us last time & clearly still aren't listening?

4/ Don't ever blame volunteers. Or minorities. The Science March agenda is exclusionary, and it is repeating the damage all over again. This thread is so reminiscent of all the abuse & gaslighting URM copped last year. We aren't the problem. Inclusion is not hard.

Agreed - inclusion is essentially not hard, however it is not on everyone's mind and we're dealing with real people. The small numbers force the organisation closer to the single-point-of-failure mode of operation.

Yes - we are dealing with a very small number of individuals. The individuals who have volunteered for some marches may not have sufficient representation to cover diverse views and may not be fully aware of diversity issues. In some cases they may have been "press-ganged".

You are talking on this thread to minority women who carry the load for all of AUS science through our individual actions, on many fronts. We do A LOT MORE with much lower numbers ALL THE TIME. So much wrong with what you're saying, how you say it, & who you're saying it to.

In what way? I really am missing your point with me speaking on science march organising issues. I am also familiar with low numbers pushing forward doing a lot with little, the small fraction of professionals who volunteer. Please point out where I am wrong so that I can learn.

It's not up to minorities to make events inclusive. They shouldn't have to keep explaining where you are going wrong and listening to your weak excuses. Don't blame others for what's happening here. Zuleyka went through this last time. She's not obliged to teach you how to fix it

I think there has been a misunderstanding. I am trying to be inclusive and am making roads for that for my local march in Canberra. I have been talking about my experiences in trying to get the same level of awareness from other organisers. I am not going to name and blame.

Although our conversation started somewhere on the Melbourne march, that is not a march I have had challenges with communicating the importance of inclusion. I've had little if any interaction with Melbourne.

That's right Sean. You're on my thread, on a conversation I started about how White men abused me over my activism to try to make the SciMarch more inclusive - specifically how one man continued to harass me for a year. Congrats on piling onto this. #marginsci