If I knew this I definitely would have put Jamba Juice on my CV!!!!https://twitter.com/TasteProf/status/950193496916447233 …
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Basically they told me my cv was too long and that stuff was irrelevant. If I added back part time jobs and non micro related research I’d have a solid extra 2-3 pages. I held 2 jobs at all times in undergrad.
I definitely wouldn't advise people to put it on their CV but maybe work it into a sentence in the essay in regards to work ethic and experience.
1/ There's a lot here to unpack and thanks for sharing! First, yes, CVs should be brief, but there are ways to list non-academic roles without cutting altogether. E.g. Under management section with role only, or listing a selection & then pointing to a website for more detail.
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2/ Not speaking to your personal situation of course, but generally having multiple jobs in undergrad speaks to financial demands on students. Advisors need to recognise how important such work is to students & nurture ability to juggle conflicting demands as a marketable skill.
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That was def my situation. I was on work study and then because they didn’t give enough hours to cover expenses, I had another job. After junior year luckily the second jobs were always research. But I’ve been an RA, a Cater Waiter, a grocery store cashier, animal shelter worker
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Thanks for this background about your very interesting career path! I worked throughout including my PhD, which many students need to do. My research roles only started as a postgrad - teaching & research assistant. We do students a disservice with crappy job application advice.
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Agreed. A great thing to think about - should you list “non-academic” experience? How to show its positive impact? And then how to shift culture to be inclusive,understanding and appreciative if some are programmed otherwise?
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Sorry - don’t mean to talk over you
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Absolutely a great discussion! I might start a thread with some advice for how to represent non-academic work - please chime in if you are interested. It really irritates me that academia is all cloaks and daggers about what we tell students about their careers!
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The advice thread for representing non-academic work on research CVs is here:https://twitter.com/OtherSociology/status/950592704458645504 …
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