If I knew this I definitely would have put Jamba Juice on my CV!!!!https://twitter.com/TasteProf/status/950193496916447233 …
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I hear you. I worked retail and other minimum wage jobs through HS and college, too. But I think many now are getting advice not to share that. And the honest truth is that sometimes it’s good and sometimes it’s bad. Hard to give universal guidance.
I definitely wouldn't advise people to put it on their CV but maybe work it into a sentence in the essay in regards to work ethic and experience.
If students are getting this advice, I would question where it comes from and to what aim. The fact is that few students from underprivileged backgrounds can afford to do unpaid internships or have connections to get into early research programs to have "pure science" experience
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I was definitely told to take anything not related to my field off my CV even other research experiences. Any part time jobs I held or leadership positions I was told to remove as well.
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Grrr this makes me really angry! If you can share this - was it careers advice workers at your university or senior academics/ supervisors or the job advertisers/recruiters saying this? The gall of telling ECR to omit part-time jobs & leadership roles from their CV!
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Not to single them out - just did quick google but look - says not to include “irrelevant” work experience: https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/967/02/ …
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WTH "Don’t pad your CV with experiences not connected to academia and never include high school awards...It’s better to have a short, honest, and professional document than one cluttered with long-ago achievements and off-topic diversions that will only make you look desperate"
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WOW, I mean, WOW - the class privilege of this advice (not to mention other privileges). "Long ago achievements" - if students went to underprivileged school, their awards may better reflect any recognition they would otherwise receive in other contexts. Perfectly ok esp for ECR
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"Off topic diversions that make you look desperate" - yes, of course be professional and stick to working experience & skills, but having just told students not to include non-academic work, this undermines applied skills necessary to real research careers.
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Not having a publication record from undergrad experience appears to be a form of discrimination now being used in some grad school applications
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It turns out I had a publication from my undergrad research but I didn’t learn about it until just before I went up for full professor! (That’s neither here nor there, just a funny weird thing that happened to me.)
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Yikes! One of my co-published articles undertaken as a postgrad wasn't brought to my attention either! I also found out years later. Of course senior profs are busy, but they would want to know if it was them - so they should make the effort. I still had same uni address
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Wowzers. In my case, I was invited back to receive distinguished alumna award, my former prof still working and she said hey! We published your work! And it raised my h-index immediately!
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In a crappy situation, probably the best way to find out late!
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This is interesting. I wonder what the senior authors were thinking when ticking the "all co-authors have reviewed the manuscript and approve of the content" box when submitting. I suppose the glass half full view is that it's good you were included
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I think it was before that - only just starting at most journals - but yeah, had that shot.
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Shot? Thought. Maybey brain thinks a whisky before bed is the thing... lol
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