6/ Third, nationality. Legal entity but contested. As you note, Ukrainians didn't have a country until 1991 referendum on independence.
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2/ White supremacists (individuals) use a narrative of race that you don't like but White supremacy (system that favours White ppl) prevails
3/ Aspects of your thread are interesting- bits about ethnicity (how you identify with culture eg Ukrainian) & nationality (Italy's history)
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Yeah I guess what I mean in a way is I wish white nationalists would stop acting like they own all white people's ethnicities
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...I mean none of that is without it's problems Ukrainian nationalists are a force into themselves...
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Like the shared history of white people, to me, is colonising and murder and racism. And none of that is glorious.
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But that's not a history I shy away from. It's just that's not what they're talking about completely. And certainly not in those terms.
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4/ Would be good to untangle from race. Whiteness is White ppl not being able to "see" or apply race to themselves https://othersociologist.com/sociology-of-race/#whiteness …
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Thanks - I think it's clear sociology is not my field, and I constantly wrangle with ideas surrounding race ethnicity etc... that
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...I don't fully understand, but I'm always trying to learn.
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Don't have to be a sociologist to engage with race critically
; but really great that you're willing to learn! And we can all learn more. 
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Touche! I'm learning every day a lot of it by just listening and reading. I'm always gonna trip up but I can't learn if I don't mess up
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Thanks for taking the time out of your day to help me :)
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You're welcome!
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