My final public comment about the fb group: I think on some level we all have to accept/respect that the mods had a way they wanted convo...
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@IBJIYONGI @berkeleyjess will be safe when existing group is not safe is very confusing. Why not improve current group?
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@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess tangentially on iPhone you can find the post by clicking on "pinned posts" -
@IBJIYONGI@berkeleyjess That's useful to know. I'm on Android & didn't see this. I'll take another look later but can't wade into FB now.
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@OtherSociology@IBJIYONGI@berkeleyjess So the admins, myself included, decided to leave that garden to grow as-is and plant a new garden -
@astrojohnjohn@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess please do not tag me in anymore tweets about it -
@IBJIYONGI@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess Okay, my bad. Took you off the thread. -
@astrojohnjohn@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess as I explained just a few hours ago, we understand and don't agree. -
@IBJIYONGI@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess I thought you were off this thread! :) I'm joining in late and cant track down all that was said b4 -
@IBJIYONGI From me, not others: I agree that it's not right for anyone, esp. WHITE ppl, to dictate safe space is for you &/or other POC -
@IBJIYONGI Not going to white-splain any more, will leave you be. - 2 more replies
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@OtherSociology@IBJIYONGI@berkeleyjess The primary problem with the current group is that it grew too quickly with too little oversight -
@astrojohnjohn@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess I'm not participating in conversations about this anymore.
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@othersociology@ibjiyongi@berkeleyjess I think some perceive the issue as "lurkers" who remain w/o learning & accepting higher standards? -
@sethzenz@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess people who don't talk? What have they done to me?
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@othersociology@ibjiyongi@berkeleyjess If they misuse the space and consequently are called out and banned if necessary, is it unsafe? -
@sethzenz@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess could easily have started a new group and shut this one down entirely. Solves that problem.
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@othersociology@ibjiyongi@berkeleyjess There's no way I can know the answer to that. Feedback from marginalized people is crucial. -
@sethzenz@OtherSociology@berkeleyjess right and we have that feedback
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@OtherSociology@IBJIYONGI@berkeleyjess Improving the current group is too time-consuming for volunteer admins, like herding 1000+ catsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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