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Law professor at UC @BerkeleyLaw. Computer crime law and criminal procedure nerd. Lawyer, but not yours. Co-founder, @chkbal.

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    1. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

      Orin Kerr Retweeted Rᴏʙᴇʀᴛ Aɴᴅᴇʀsᴏɴ

      Word that the U.S. News ranking will start a specialty ranking in my field, criminal law, makes me realize that I have no clue how I would rank schools in my specialty. Here's a thread on why.https://twitter.com/ProfRobAnderson/status/1213855876651593729 …

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      Rᴏʙᴇʀᴛ Aɴᴅᴇʀsᴏɴ @ProfRobAnderson
      Four new US News specialty law school rankings coming this year.. conlaw, corporate, crim, contracts/commercial
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    2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

      First, some context. US News does specialty rankings by asking profs in a particular specialty area to rank other schools in that specialty area on a 5 point scale. I assume they'll do the same for crim. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/law-schools-methodology …pic.twitter.com/iL9sjM2qXk

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    3. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

      But I don't know how I would/will rank schools in crim. Every law school has offerings in criminal law. Every student takes crim law, and most take crim pro. So there's a crim law faculty at every school. But ranking schools in crim seems awfully hard to me. Here's why:

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    4. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

      I have a sense of what schools have what I see as top scholars in the field. But the presence of a top scholar at a school doesn't obviously make it better/best in the subject. Even if I know the work of some profs, most have a bunch of crim profs whose work I may not know well.

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      Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

      And what I know is mostly my sense of profs as scholars. Is that most relevant to students? Maybe not. If I were a student interested in crim, I would want to know other things. Like: What schools have the best record of grads going into crim practice? I don't know that.

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        2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

          What schools have the best crim-related clinics, with the most spots available? I don't know that, either. What schools have the most course offerings related to crim taught by the most engaging in-class professors? Again, I don't know that.

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        3. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

          And what I do know of other schools can be weak information. For example, some schools start "centers" or "programs" in particular fields. I can often remember if I have seen news of a school that has a "center" etc. in my field.

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        4. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

          But it's usually hard to tell if a school having a "center" in the area means anything. A "center" could be a real thing with lots of people and events and resources. Or a school could put up a website and announce a "center," and poof!, they have a center.

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        5. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr Jan 5

          I usually don't have the time or interest to figure out how much another school's "center" matters to its program, so I'm not sure how a school having one means anything. In short, If I ever get one of these US News ballots, I have no idea how I will rank schools. /end

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        1. Shane Huang‏ @crying_robot Jan 6
          Replying to @OrinKerr

          Relevance to students should be "can this school place me in jobs in the region where I want to practice," and USNews' national rankings won't do that. The best schools for becoming a prosecutor in LA is going to look very different than the list for Chicago, NYC, Dallas, etc.

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        2. Ligeti Split‏ @jeez_no Jan 6
          Replying to @OrinKerr

          And wouldn’t inaccurate rankings skew this metric anyway down the line, since a lot of the ladder-climbing in the legal field rests on signaling? As in it becomes self-referential based an inaccurate initial rating.

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        3. Ligeti Split‏ @jeez_no Jan 6
          Replying to @jeez_no @OrinKerr

          This would obviously help students sort where they’re most likely to get jobs, but not necessarily where would prepare them best (through experiential learning or whatever else)

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