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Michael W. Taft
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Michael W. Taft

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🦇 Sentient comet 💫 Meditation freak 🙏🏻 Teacher 🍄 Author 🎙Podcaster 📚 SF nerd 🤖 Serial comma enthusiast 🌏 Raised by wolves 🐺 Bad influence 🧝🏻‍♂️

Oakland, CA
deconstructingyourself.com
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    1. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova Apr 8

      Having a long standing, formal spiritual practice like meditation does make you more prepared and more likely to have an awakening. But I also know people who've had various awakenings through: - psychedelics - tantric practices - reading a profound book - help of a guru Etc.

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    2. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova Apr 8

      Having a framework does seem to be helpful for doing the work, otherwise the "I am insane" period post-awakening can last longer and be more damaging. It also seems that dissolving the framework is a good idea after the work is done, so it doesn't turn into dogma.

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    3. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Apr 8
      Replying to @euvieivanova

      Don't forget the "I am insane" period *before* awakening. Without a map, it's really easy to get stuck there. Potentially for the rest of your life.

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    4. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Apr 8
      Replying to @Triquetrea @euvieivanova

      How's your experience of dissolving the framework been? I can't even bring myself to respect any framework to begin with, so I wouldn't even know where to start... I'm sure it's easy to slip into when the results come, though - judging by every enlightened person I know.

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    5. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova Apr 8
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      Really good point about the "I am insane" period before awakening. The potential to get lost there if going without a map is maybe even greater than post-awakening, because there is less clarity and one is more prone to delusion.

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    6. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Apr 8
      Replying to @euvieivanova

      I am on some sort of cusp now, I think. I have normal days, and days where I identify as much with my sole or any other sense object (don't know why the sole, but it's really persistent) as with any "normal" sense of self.

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    7. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Apr 8
      Replying to @Triquetrea @euvieivanova

      If I didn't know this was completely normal, I can guess it might throw me for a loop or five.

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    8. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova Apr 8
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      Yeah, the depersonalization is one of the scarier side effects. It still gets me.

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    9. Deconstructing Yourself‏ @DeconstructingU Apr 8
      Replying to @euvieivanova @Triquetrea

      It's not a side effect. :)

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    10. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Apr 8
      Replying to @DeconstructingU @euvieivanova @Triquetrea

      Is there room for interpretation, in your experience? When is depersonalisation a direct result of insight into not-self, impermanence, and when is it clinical/pathological issues such as DP/DR? Open ended question, you don’t have to answer. I’m just ‘spit-balling’, as they say.

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      Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Apr 8
      Replying to @misen__ @DeconstructingU and

      I'm not a clinician, or anything like one. However, when I've worked with people with actual DP/DR, I was able to show them that they were privileging the negative parts of awakening, and things went better when they privileged the positive parts.

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        1. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova Apr 8
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @DeconstructingU @Triquetrea

          Right, side effect is not the right term. More like a direct effect / normal occurence.

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        1. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Apr 8
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @DeconstructingU and

          That’s really interesting!

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