I hate to fly in the face of what a lot of smart people think (ok, not really) but nothing I've ever seen or read from Jiddu Krishnamurti made any sense whatsoever, or was profound in the least.
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Replying to @VincentHorn
J. Krishnamurti's basic message was to tell every religious or spiritual leader in the world to go fuck themselves. Don't believe anybody and don't join anything. It's a pretty acerbic message that some people just can't take.
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Replying to @shaunbartone
Weird, even that wasn’t clear to me. I just found him to be largely incoherent. Watching him speak to David Bohm was particularly painful, though I had high hopes. I guess I just don’t get it.
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Replying to @VincentHorn @shaunbartone
There’s a bio video called “with a Silent Mind” that gives a good intro to Krishnamurti & his teaching. It’s horribly worshipful and treacly, but works as information nonetheless.
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as best I can tell, Jiddu got enlightened as a teenager. He was also warped by his upbringing. The combination seems to have alienated him from ordinary experience, and filled him with contempt for a great number of people. Remember enlightened does not mean nice.
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Replying to @iwelsh @OortCloudAtlas and
Ian, do you have a 'go to' definition/frame for enlightened-ness? I know very little about JK, I recall Shinzen saying that he seemed to 'get' something but that his teaching led to a lot of his students talking about JK instead of putting what he said into practice.
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Shinzen was making the point that not all people with a deep awakening are good @ teaching it to others. He would use JK as the prime example. His point is that while it’s true that there’s nothing to get and nowhere to go, you still have to give people something to hang onto.
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One of the things I want to write about is why, while strictly speaking true, "there is nothing you can do" is terrible fucking advice and exactly the wrong thing to say to most people. Just like "do as thou will is the whole of the law". Malpractice, both of them.
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“There’s nothing you can do” is perfectly correct advice for the last second before awakening. Just let go into it. Before that moment, however, there may be a hell of a lot you need to do.
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