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Michael W. Taft
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Michael W. Taft

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🦇 Sentient comet 💫 Meditation freak 🙏🏻 Teacher 🍄 Author 🎙Podcaster 📚 SF nerd 🤖 Serial comma enthusiast 🌏 Raised by wolves 🐺 Bad influence 🧝🏻‍♂️

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    1. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh

      “Being on good terms” is quite different than being the stooge of. But surely you know that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      ok, what has he done because of Putin's influence that was against America's interests? I can think of some intelligence sharing. Other?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh

      Got elected. And all the carnage since. He would not have gotten elected without Putin’s influence.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      Possibly. But at the current time, good relations with Russia are one of the only good things about his administration. It might be worth, at some point, examing /why/ Russia interfered in America's election. It isn't because Russia is "evil, evil, evil".

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh

      I definitely happy to not be at war with Russia over Ukraine, or something. On the other hand, election interference and subsequent mayhem cannot be tolerated.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      Now, apply that to America's interference in many elections including Russia's. Why can't it be tolerated? Every other country has to tolerate America's interference in our elections (yes, Canada has suffered your intereference too.) Why are you special?

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    7. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh

      It’s not about being special. It’s about one of the functions of government being to defend the nation against aggression. That is its proper role and that is what the US govt should be doing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      Ok. You interfered in their elections, multiple times. Now they have interfered in yours once. Perhaps you should get together and say "let's both of us not do that." If you want something to stop, stop doing it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh @OortCloudAtlas

      this is a serial killer saying "it's not right when it is done to me". Virtually everyone outside the US thinks this is laughable.

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    10. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh @OortCloudAtlas

      "we don't want to be treated the way we have routinely treated other people for well over a hundred years". Why should anyone outside the US care, except of course, because you're overarmed and aggressive?

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      Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
      Replying to @iwelsh

      This is all obvious. What is equally obvious is that as a US citizen I have legitimate concerns about the integrity of my government.

      4:31 PM - 18 Dec 2017 from Berkeley, CA
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        2. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

          Sure. Now, what is the best way to protect your government's integrity? Demonize Putin and Russia, or say "gee it hurts when people do to us what we routinely do to them. Maybe we should stop doing that."

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @iwelsh @OortCloudAtlas

          "I'm sorry, serialvictim. I see that by repeatedly hitting you I have done bad. I didn't really get that till you hit me. Let's both not hit each other again."

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        4. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @iwelsh

          Calling Russia a serial victim is laughable, and you know it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 18 Dec 2017
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

          Yeah. You don't actually know the history.

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