@iwelsh I’d contend the dissipation of conditioning is greatly aided by realization, but not automatically completed by it. @OortCloudAtlas
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there are, of course, other cases.
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otherwise, in Hindu traditions, it tends to be love of Guru that keeps people going (Guru said to do X, why not?)
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the guys who keep churning on tend to do so because of oaths, in particular the Bodhisattva oath.
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