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Michael W. Taft
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🦇 Sentient comet 💫 Meditation freak 🙏🏻 Teacher 🍄 Author 🎙Podcaster 📚 SF nerd 🤖 Serial comma enthusiast 🌏 Raised by wolves 🐺 Bad influence 🧝🏻‍♂️

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    1. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19

      Fake sutras were a big problem in early medieval China. The influential bibliographer Sengyou (445–518) complained about them. He also complained about "extract sutras" 抄經 like the Heart Sutra.

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    2. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19

      By Sengyou's criteria, the Heart Sutra was a problem for several reasons: it was anonymous, not associated with a famous translator, and it was not associated with India.

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    3. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19

      Hence in the 7th Century, after it became popular, such connections were supplied. It was attributed to Xuanzang who happened to be famous at the time, who had been to India and a Sanskrit text was forged (in China).

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    4. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19

      It's not clear who conspired to carry out the hoax, but it was pulled off before Xuanzang died - physical evidence dating from 661 makes this certain. So, the question is, was Xuanzang complicit in the hoax.

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    5. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19

      BTW the fact that there was a hoax doesn't mean that the Heart Sutra is worthless. In fact, if we ignore the final magic spell, it succinctly describes the experience of cessation or emptiness and thus should be of value to people pursuing āyatana style mediations.

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      Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jul 19
      Replying to @Jayarava

      Wouldn’t you say that the “supreme unfailing mantra” is essentially a paean to cessation?

      12:42 AM - 19 Jul 2018 from Oakland, CA
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        2. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

          It isn't a mantra (that is a translation error). It is a dhāraṇī. Dhāraṇī use high prestige words in non-syntactic sequences as magic spells. Therefore they don't "mean" anything (cannot be analysed semantically.

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        3. Jayarava‏ @Jayarava Jul 19
          Replying to @Jayarava @OortCloudAtlas

          Most dhāraṇī were used apophatically - they turn away bad luck. The dhārāṇī in the Xinjing came from elsewhere and I haven't yet analysed the original context. So the short answer is "no, I don't think that". 🤓

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